Ciantar1739

Conte Ciantar, 1739, 1745, 1747, 1761.
Last update: 04-06-2020.
 
 
 
Granted to:  Giovanni Antonio Ciantar.
By: Mary I, Queen of Portugal
On: 1739 at Lisbon, Portugal.
With Remainder to: to his male heirs.
List of Title holders: 
Granted to:  Giovanni Antonio Ciantar.
By: Louis XV, King of France.
On: 1745 at Versaille, France.
With Remainder to: to his male heirs.
List of Title holders: 
1. Giovanni Antonio Ciantar, (d. 1765), 1st Comte, succeeded by nomination in his will to his younger son.
2. Conte Luigi Ciantar Paleologo, (d. 1803), 2nd Comte, succeeded by his son.
3. Conte Salvatore Ciantar Paleologo, (d. 1846), 3rd Comte, succeeded by his son.
4. Conte Luigi Ciantar Preziosi, (c. 1858), 4th Comte, succeeded by his grandson.
5. Nobile Salvatore Debono Preziosi, (d. 1910), 5th Comte, succeeded by his sister.
6. Nobile Marianna Debono Preziosi, (d. 1917), 6th "Comtesse", succeeded by her cousin.
7. Nobile Alfred Nicosia Ciantar, (d. 1927), 7th Comte, succeeded by his son.
8. Nobile James Joseph Nicosia Turnbull, (d. 1963), 8th Comte, succeeded by his brother.
9. Nobile Joseph James Nicosia Turnbull, (d. 1964), 9th Comte, succeeded by his son.
 
Heir: Nobile Paul Nicosia Turnbull, (1965-Contino Ciantar.
Heir General: Nobile Matthew Nicosia Turnbull, (2002-.
 
Granted to:  Giovanni Antonio Ciantar.
By: Louis XV, King of France.
On: 1747 at Versaille, France.
With Remainder to: life only.
List of Title holders: 
1. Giovanni Antonio Ciantar, (d. 1765), 1st Comte, extinct.
 
Granted to:  Giovanni Antonio Ciantar.
By: Louis XV, King of France.
On: 1761 at Versaille, France.
With Remainder to: Life only.
List of Title holders: 
1. Giovanni Antonio Ciantar, (d. 1765), 1st Comte, extinct.
 
Articles relating to this title:
 
The Roman Patricanship of Ciantar.
The Roman Patricanship of Ciantar  The dignity of Patrician of Rome (Wzzini/Ciantar?? (1744)
Footnote: Another “Dignity of Roman Patrician” appears to have been granted in 1744.
In 1878, this dignity was claimed by Conte Serafino Ciantar. However, it appears that this claimant did not produce any proof. 
The Royal Commissioners  dismissed this claim because, the same Commissioners decided not only that the claimant did not provide any proof whatsoever BUT ALSO because the same Commissioners held that this dignity was a mere municipal honour and not one emanating from a foreign sovereign, or fons honorum. (“Correspondence and Report of the Commission appointed to enquire into the claims and grievances of the Maltese Nobility”, May 1878, presented to both Houses of Parliament by Command of Her Majesty (C.-2033.) (See Report Para. 240)).
Thus, as far as the Commissioners were concerned, once they regarded this dignity as a municipal honour, it did not fall within the remit of the Commission because the Commissioners were of the opinion that once it is a municipal honour it does not qualify to be registered in accordance with the rules of 1739 and 1795 as enacted by Grand Masters Despuig and Rohan. 
The actual report says the following:
“Two similar diplomas of Roman Patricians are mentioned in the Committee list, dated respectively the 6th July 1674 and the 4th July 1744”..the latter being claimed by the Conte Serafino Ciantar. No proof or document whatever having been produced concerning these grants, such claims cannot be consequently allowed.
However, upon a more detailed analysis about the nature of this dignity, it appears that contrary to what was held by the Commissioners, that the 1744 dignity (if proven) is in fact a conferral of nobility because the city of Rome acted as a fons honorum (fountain of honour). See also http://cilialacorte.com/Patriciates.htm.
Sadly, from a reading of the Report, there is no indication as to who was the original grantee of the 1744 dignity. 
 

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